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		<title>By: Amy J. Kearns, MLIS</title>
		<link>http://librarygarden.net/2007/07/13/pimp-yourself/#comment-2092</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy J. Kearns, MLIS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jul 2007 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Liz, wow I didn&#039;t know any of that stuff - thanks for the info...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I also agree about the lack of wall space, etc. for librarians to hang their degrees, certificates, etc.,....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m not sure about it either - I had them hanging in my house before I moved - now they aren&#039;t hanging anywhere - but I&#039;m thinking of putting them up in the office. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My idea/suggestion for how to let patrons know about the MLIS is to have name tags and to have that on them and also titles on them. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;(I know there are a few different opinions on this and some people aren&#039;t comfortable with their last names being on the name tags at work and it&#039;s kinda weird to put something like Amy, MLIS instead of Amy Kearns, MILS, and personally my position is keeping your last name off your name tag isn&#039;t really going to &quot;protect your identity&quot; if that&#039;s what you&#039;re after cuz you are in many cases a public employee and blah blah blah)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;ooh sorry for that - take a breath, Kearns!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, wow I didn&#8217;t know any of that stuff &#8211; thanks for the info&#8230;</p>
<p>I also agree about the lack of wall space, etc. for librarians to hang their degrees, certificates, etc.,&#8230;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about it either &#8211; I had them hanging in my house before I moved &#8211; now they aren&#8217;t hanging anywhere &#8211; but I&#8217;m thinking of putting them up in the office. </p>
<p>My idea/suggestion for how to let patrons know about the MLIS is to have name tags and to have that on them and also titles on them. </p>
<p>(I know there are a few different opinions on this and some people aren&#8217;t comfortable with their last names being on the name tags at work and it&#8217;s kinda weird to put something like Amy, MLIS instead of Amy Kearns, MILS, and personally my position is keeping your last name off your name tag isn&#8217;t really going to &#8220;protect your identity&#8221; if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re after cuz you are in many cases a public employee and blah blah blah)</p>
<p>ooh sorry for that &#8211; take a breath, Kearns!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz B</title>
		<link>http://librarygarden.net/2007/07/13/pimp-yourself/#comment-2091</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OH, just read Josh&#039;s comment.  I think public libraries are a place where we should promote the degree like he says; but since many public librarians don&#039;t have an office, their own computer, or even any wallspace, it&#039;s hard to do.  I&#039;d be interested in creative answers to that, especially answers that let the patrons know about the MLISs!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, just read Josh&#8217;s comment.  I think public libraries are a place where we should promote the degree like he says; but since many public librarians don&#8217;t have an office, their own computer, or even any wallspace, it&#8217;s hard to do.  I&#8217;d be interested in creative answers to that, especially answers that let the patrons know about the MLISs!</p>
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		<title>By: Liz B</title>
		<link>http://librarygarden.net/2007/07/13/pimp-yourself/#comment-2090</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Using the MLIS is something I&#039;ll have to think about.  I do think we need to be more visible about the degree and the value. And if people don&#039;t know we have it ...  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As for Pimp... at the next NJLA conference, after a few drinks, I&#039;ll sing my version of &quot;it&#039;s hard out here for a pimp&quot;, but with lyrics revised to &quot;it&#039;s hard out here for a librarian.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And c&#039;mon, you know that as soon as you talked law stuff I&#039;d be here! I&#039;m sure there was a bet going on about how long it would take me to comment &amp; how long that comment would be.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Usual disclaimer, as with any legal stuff, the below can vary based on state law, as well as the exact degree earned. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Esq: a bit of a debate about whether or not it&#039;s proper to refer to oneself as Esq., or whether it should only be used  about someone else (ie I write a letter to John Doe Esq but don&#039;t sign it Jim Doe Esq.) It can be looked at as very &quot;look at me, look at me.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The arguments for using it for oneself are mostly about the Esq indicating the right to pratice law, rather than &quot;just&quot; having earned the degree.  (Yes, earning a JD is a major accomplishment, but its not enough to practice, so people have to be very clear about this in how they use or don&#039;t use JD.  Hence the &quot;just&quot;.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And, just to stir the pot some more, a lot of usage of Esquire is traditional (but not always, a few states may have codified it) and some still think it cannot be used by / about a woman.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Another debate re JDs is how one shouldn&#039;t call oneself doctor, even tho a doctorate had been earned (JD.) (NJ, of course, has an entire legal opinion on when one can and cannot call themselves a doctor based on the juris doctorate).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I guess law wise (and possible MD wise) (I&#039;m not sure about PhDs) part of the reason for the alphabet soup after a name is to let people know not so much the degree earned, but the legal right to practice.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Liz B., BS, JD (retired), MLIS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using the MLIS is something I&#8217;ll have to think about.  I do think we need to be more visible about the degree and the value. And if people don&#8217;t know we have it &#8230;  </p>
<p>Anyway.</p>
<p>As for Pimp&#8230; at the next NJLA conference, after a few drinks, I&#8217;ll sing my version of &#8220;it&#8217;s hard out here for a pimp&#8221;, but with lyrics revised to &#8220;it&#8217;s hard out here for a librarian.&#8221;</p>
<p>And c&#8217;mon, you know that as soon as you talked law stuff I&#8217;d be here! I&#8217;m sure there was a bet going on about how long it would take me to comment &#038; how long that comment would be.</p>
<p>Usual disclaimer, as with any legal stuff, the below can vary based on state law, as well as the exact degree earned. </p>
<p>Esq: a bit of a debate about whether or not it&#8217;s proper to refer to oneself as Esq., or whether it should only be used  about someone else (ie I write a letter to John Doe Esq but don&#8217;t sign it Jim Doe Esq.) It can be looked at as very &#8220;look at me, look at me.&#8221;</p>
<p>The arguments for using it for oneself are mostly about the Esq indicating the right to pratice law, rather than &#8220;just&#8221; having earned the degree.  (Yes, earning a JD is a major accomplishment, but its not enough to practice, so people have to be very clear about this in how they use or don&#8217;t use JD.  Hence the &#8220;just&#8221;.)</p>
<p>And, just to stir the pot some more, a lot of usage of Esquire is traditional (but not always, a few states may have codified it) and some still think it cannot be used by / about a woman.</p>
<p>Another debate re JDs is how one shouldn&#8217;t call oneself doctor, even tho a doctorate had been earned (JD.) (NJ, of course, has an entire legal opinion on when one can and cannot call themselves a doctor based on the juris doctorate).</p>
<p>I guess law wise (and possible MD wise) (I&#8217;m not sure about PhDs) part of the reason for the alphabet soup after a name is to let people know not so much the degree earned, but the legal right to practice.</p>
<p>Liz B., BS, JD (retired), MLIS.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy J. Kearns, MLIS</title>
		<link>http://librarygarden.net/2007/07/13/pimp-yourself/#comment-2077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Amy J. Kearns, MLIS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Josh, that exact thing was also mentioned and this also made them quite nervous - but I agree and I&#039;m really glad you added it - I will do that in my new office in fact! :-)&lt;br/&gt;Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Josh, that exact thing was also mentioned and this also made them quite nervous &#8211; but I agree and I&#8217;m really glad you added it &#8211; I will do that in my new office in fact! <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> <br />Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://librarygarden.net/2007/07/13/pimp-yourself/#comment-2076</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another thing you could do is hang your degree up in your office, or cubicle, or whatever desk space you have.  This is so common in other professions but I dont think I have even seen a librarian with their degree, or other certifications, hanging up in their office.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing you could do is hang your degree up in your office, or cubicle, or whatever desk space you have.  This is so common in other professions but I dont think I have even seen a librarian with their degree, or other certifications, hanging up in their office.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia</title>
		<link>http://librarygarden.net/2007/07/13/pimp-yourself/#comment-2072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cynthia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is exactly the type of thing that needs to be done if we want to end the slide into the use of para-professionals instead of MLIS holders in many library jobs.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Look at the job postings--few if any are for full-time employment in public libraries.  I suspect that much of that is because of the use of interns and para-professionals.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As I struggle to change careers, friends, family, and co-workers are all amazed that to be a librarian you need a Master&#039;s degree.  We should market ourselves and our skills far better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly the type of thing that needs to be done if we want to end the slide into the use of para-professionals instead of MLIS holders in many library jobs.</p>
<p>Look at the job postings&#8211;few if any are for full-time employment in public libraries.  I suspect that much of that is because of the use of interns and para-professionals.  </p>
<p>As I struggle to change careers, friends, family, and co-workers are all amazed that to be a librarian you need a Master&#8217;s degree.  We should market ourselves and our skills far better.</p>
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